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Faithful Hearts

Discussion in 'Internet Fiction/Fanfiction' started by Cyan, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    Oops. I completely forgot them. :oops: I'll do four, then, just so we don't have any repetition.

    Oh, totally. Honestly, the one character I want to have actually show up is her father. Not all these pointless characters like some doctor Marina knew a long time ago. I mean, seriously, he basically abandoned his kid. (Though I can't exactly blame him because it's Marina.)
     
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  2. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    We all know it's to give Marina status without having to have her family as any sort of consequence. Good writing is totally needing to write the parents out of your adult character's life.
     
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  3. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    I still headcanon that the reason why he dumped her off at Mickey's is because he knew she was a Mary Sue from birth.
     
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  4. Garbodor

    Garbodor Almost a garbage Pokemon

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    I've always admired your relentless following of her crappy fanfiction haha
    I couldn't make it past the first page.
     
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  5. Atropos

    Atropos eeeewww

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    Marina Seadrift is like a drug. An incredibly lengthy drug. If you guys are doing a full-on riff, then I'd be glad to lend a hand (on a side note, I do have a riff of Darkness Arising, one of three fanfictions spawned by FotH)

    Her dad is probably the only character that could potentially have some sort of complex relationship with Marina that's more than just 'lol they're on an adventure together'. I'm surprised we haven't seen any of him, or the Terran empire at all hardly.
     
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  6. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    Well, let's take a look at chapter three.
    Scared of seeing him? Not the fact that he's a stranger in your home? Or that he's still holding you? You saw him earlier and he followed you here? No it's definitely the "mechanical parts on his right side."

    Also, what's with Goofy? "Are you okay, Marina?" It's a really odd reaction to your friend being held by a strange man you don't know. Most people I know would probably be thinking "woah okay man you can give her here now," before asking.

    Bwahahaha, nice use of pronouns there. "Child clinging to it's mother." Marina just called herself an "it."

    Donald reacts a little more appropriately to the situation, and Daisy runs her mouth in an awkward string of questions. I also like how the captain of the guard comes in without any support. Silver could just shoot him and run off with Marina if he wanted. Honestly, even if this fic was a "pirate-runs-off-with-high-chancelor's-daughter-sex-fantasy" story, it would still be a lot more engaging as well as consistant.

    These two contribute nothing throughout the entire story and don't need to be there. This fic is just "Disney characters react to things for 40+ chapters" the Saga. Still not as cringey as the Pooh's Adventures shit though.

    The flow of this part is what bothers me the most and needs to be organized a bit better. The subject just loops around to everybody fight silver > Mickey telling everyone not to > "Marina are you alright?" >Everybody fight silver.

    ...And then Mickey was posessed by an unnamed voice of reason and said, "I think knowing that my kingdom is about to be attacked by goddamn demons is a little more important than a holiday celebration. Captain Ward! See to it that my citizens aren't under attack as we speak!"

    Wait, shit. I'm not the one writing this story.
    Mickey clenched his fists and barred his teeth. "Stop humblebragging at my wife you asshole!"

    Hang on. Pirates can be demon-summoning sorcerers now? Mickey should have just tried his hand at being a pirate for a few years, got in on some of that nightmare controlling magic, then turned around to use it to protect his kingdom and it's people.

    Fleet? In the movie, Silver wasn't a captain and didn't even have his own ship. He just rounded up a group of criminals and planned a mutiny. Most of those criminals, by the way, are dead now.

    For being as in love with Silver as our author claims, she doesn't touch up much on the time between the events of the movie and her fic when it comes to Silver.

    On another note, if you have a goal in mind and an entire fleet of pirates under your command, you go accomplish that goal with your subordinates. Leaders are part of the team, not superpowered lone wolf juggernauts. I can understand naive Marina falling for this, but not somebody like the king or Captain Ward.

    Anyways, there are apparently character limits in posts so I'll continue the riff in a second.
     
  7. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    Do you know what a competent leader of government would do if the nightmares attacked knowing the information that Mickey knows? Immediately check to see if this wizard as well as the rest of the citizens were okay, and simply have Silver detained for later questioning the moment he showed his face.

    In fact that would be a more interesting way to get the plot rolling than Marina sitting here watching the exposition and doing nothing. I'm sure you can imagine Marina's horror as demons besieged her home, and Mickey detaining the hawt-scarey-cyborg that saved her then taking off before answering her questions? Marina's confusion would lead to reader interest, as well as force her to take her own initiative and find the answers out for herself.

    You know, even if Charles Manson himself came to warn me of something coming that I was already quietly worried about for most of my life, I'd take his word for it and prepare myself. If this wizard was really great and wise, he wouldn't dismiss Silver with "lol the nightmares wouldn't come for me only because a silly pirate told me so."

    Also Silver keeps flirting with Mickey's wife.

    Privateer against who? Silver's crimes would have been against said Queen and empire, and they weren't exactly grandiose enough to catch a Queen's attention and say "you're good at it, do it for me." Which is how being a privateer works, by the way.

    Also, why would Silver assume where an oracle/medium/whatever would go? Madame Leota could have hunkered down with other ghosts, a militarized Empire like the Terran Empire that this fic establishes later, King Triton in Atlantica, Las Vegas to make herself some money, or literally anywhere else. Knowing she's an oracle is not enough information to go on to guess her location.

    In fact, wouldn't Madame Leota have seen this coming and acted to avoid it?



    Uuuuugh, I hate plots that revolve around "prophecies".

    Anyways, I like how despite having years of training, Captain Ward, (y'know, the professional) still thinks Marina should hang back. That means Marina isn't too handy with a sword, methinks. In fact, the way being in Silver's presence paralized her, I'd agree with Ward. Marina doesn't belong in a real fight.
    To quote Tywin Lannister, "A wise king knows what he knows and what he doesn't. You're young. A wise young king listens to his counselors and heeds their advice until he comes of age. And the wisest kings continue to listen to them long afterwards."

    If only Mickey would listen to his captain of the guard.
    I'm not apologizing for triple posting this.
     
  8. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    Marina is acting like she's never been checked out by a guy before, proving that the Robert backstory adds nothing. Also her "fashionista" trait rears it's head at an inappropriate time, making it seem like a shallow tacked-on personality trait and also making her look like an incompetent airhead.

    Please tell me that Mickey shared this knowledge of teleporting magic with Captain Ward.

    Also, what are Chip and Dale actually for? Why does Mickey keep them around? Do they have a role to play in this kingdom beyond padding the story's word count?

    ...And I just lost all respect for Captain Ward. Not because he's being a meanie to Silver, but the fact that he's letting Silver get to him at all. A real cop just ignores his sassy prisoners, and doesn't get into juvenile pissing contests with them.
    :story:
     
  9. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    :vodka:
    ....you looked like you could use it after a job well done.
    I'll get to chapter 4 after work tomorrow. Hoorah.
     
  10. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    While you do that, just keep in mind all the unnecessary mouth panels in the comics.
    [​IMG]
     
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  11. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    I'm still convinced that Marina put on lipstick in the dark.
     
  12. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    Okay guys, chapter 4 as promised. I'll probably be breaking it up into parts like Cyan (because goddamn are these long, even without limits).

    Thank you, DF. We needed an entire paragraph to know what these iconic characters are wearing. Maybe I'm being nitpicky (I am), but why are you wasting time dressing? (Especially with what we know of Marina.) You guys are supposed to be booking it to Merlin's.
    Also this:
    Does not compute.

    And then they all spliced together into a hellish blob. The end.

    So do I: a whole lot of nothing.

    Ewwwwww they all share a heart?!

    So then he didn't arrive exactly when you predicted? Your predictions are shit, old man.

    Basically the advice Marina should have taken for the rest of the fic. Also, why is she defending him? She barely knows Silver outside of his reputation as a pirate. She has no reason to think he's innocent at all in this, especially with his timely arrival.

    Also, this is the court magician (DF may not have given him that title in her knockoff of KH but that's effectively what he is so fuq u) and the queen's lady-in-waiting arguing like children. When they're supposed to be taking this seriously. And they're being sent off to stop the nightmares why?

    Obviously stretching to make Donald look like the bad guy here, when... really, his suspicions aren't unfounded. His attitude isn't either. Silver may be serving the Terran Empire now, but his past as a notorious pirate isn't so easily erased.

    Oh come on. Goofy's a... er... goof, but he's not a braindead retard. How can he get THAT wrong?

    "But aside from that, he's completely trustworthy and we shouldn't be worried about him lying to us or anything. I'm a great king!"

    "He's a great guy, honest! He made my panties wet!"

    While Mickey is right to rebuke Donald for harping on this when the have important business (and yeah, he IS the king so he gets to make the call on Silver's fate), Donald isn't wrong for stating that. It's highly suspicious and they know for a fact that Silver is not to be trusted on his word, given his reputation.
     
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  13. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    "So I really don't know why I've been defending him this whole time."

    Ladies and gents, the only sane character in this goddamn fic.

    Is this a cute character trait yet? Was it ever supposed to be?

    And when she saw Marina's she screamed and vanished. Some things were never meant to be seen.

    "Save yours, Marina, you overgrown brat. Perhaps you could not be an impudent twat?"

    Hm, what a strange prophecy! I wonder what it mean--
    You know, if knowing what it means could -- I dunno -- save all the worlds, maybe stop being a prick and let him explain? Let him give them a lead at least.
    Assholemedes has a point, though.

    Why did I bring them again? the king asked himself silently. He really should have known better.

    And then Archimedes gets proven right many chapters later after they've since accomplished fuck all.

    Oh no.

    That's a useless bit of trivia and all, but don't you guys have nightmares to fight and a prophecy to decipher?

    Guys? Nightmares? Prophecies?
    Or you could NOT do any of this. That's an option.
    Once the light had absorbed the vitriolic team into the pages, Merlin closed the book shut and returned it to its proper place, never to be disturbed again. "Now, King Mickey, about this prophecy..."

    THE END
     
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  14. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    And here's to you, especially for that beautiful ending.:vodka:

    I wonder what DF thinks Maleficent's motive is for all this nightmare shit? Sure she's an evil faerie, but I can't see what she has to gain from snuffing out worlds. (Even if that plotline was ripped from Kingdom Hearts, it didn't make any sense in that either.)

    Oh well, I'm sure Pooh's Adventures of Marina Seadrift will reveal some important plot information.
     
  15. caffeinated_wench

    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    If the fic/DF had an iota of competence, I would say it's because as a "dark" faerie she can rule everyone more easily. She obviously has a form of control over the Not-Heartless, so using them to make the worlds to her liking as she conquered them would be some kind of goal. Or maybe she just wants good old revenge, since there's this mention of Yen Sid (an old nemesis?) and faeries are notorious for invoking curses and the like for even the smallest of offenses -- it's even canon for Maleficent.

    Buuuuuut because the fic is what it is, it's probably just generic "evil stuff because."
     
  16. The Mighty Shockwave

    The Mighty Shockwave Suspicious purple old guy

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    I have nothing to contribute besides an extra bottle for you guys in thanks of grabbing the best parts of each chapter to riff, because I've tried time and time again to read the fanfic but found myself repeating a line over and over until I realized it. I had liked Disneyfan101's thread on KF but never could keep up with it much because there were so many chapters I missed out on and characters I've never heard of so I got a glimpse of some of the comics with Marina and Silver and about lost my lunch.

    :whiskey: Anyways, I'll probably lurk here because I enjoy this charming little train wreck of a story. Don't burn yourselves out over all 80 chapters, friends.
     
  17. Atropos

    Atropos eeeewww

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  18. Cyan

    Cyan #00FFFF Staff Member B& AF, Fam Moderator

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    They're also more porny!
     
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    caffeinated_wench do you is fucking

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    Here you go, my riff of Chapter 5: The Hundred Acre Wood (or "How I took a lame level in KH and made it lamer")

    Except it didn't and Merlin had instead sent them back into the forest. He's nice like that.

    Get used to this, Uninitiated. Not Marina smelling things, though that too happens; no, get used to hearing her tell you all about how she's read things because she's an obnoxious twat like that.

    It won't.

    Uh.... I don't recall Pooh ever introducing himself as Pooh Bear. I could be wrong here though. Other characters, like Piglet, call him that, but I don't recall Pooh himself doing so.

    "Something about getting out of somewhere? Like a fanfic?"

    "Don't patronize me, you cold-farted itch."

    Firstly, I forgot that even back here in chapter 5 Marina treated anyone younger than her (in this case, mentally) like children even if she acknowledges they're adults in their own society. Patronizing bitch.
    Secondly, Donald has a point. You guys really don't have time for this shit.

    Pot, Kettle called. You're black.

    When Donald is the most rational person in this scene... No, really. We're supposed to think Marina is the sane one, but while they're fucking around in here who knows what's going on in the real world. They know the Nightmares are coming.

    "Why do you make me hit you?!"

    Do it again, I wasn't looking!

    And that's where the chapter ends. No, seriously. It ends right there.
     
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    "Now you're going to complain about either we'll do childish things or not. "
    I read this line a dozen times and still don't get it.
     
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