Disney Animated Canon

To get into the sequel movies, a favorite of mine was the third Aladdin movie, the King of Thieves. Liked the interaction between estranged father and son as well as the treasure hunt aspect.

 

King of Thieves was pretty good--it was made as a conclusion to the TV series, right? Like how Return of Jafar was the TV pilot?

Speaking of sequels, another I liked was Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin, which weirdly-enough garnered negative reviews for having dark themes and imagery. Not like The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh didn't have scary imagery itself. Parents sure know what's best.

I still have a soft spot for Kronk's New Groove and The Lion King 1 1/2, though I honestly couldn't tell you why. Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas could've counted if only for Tim Curry alone, but I haven't seen it in years, so I don't remember how good he was as the pipe organ.

Although honestly, the best Disney sequel was The Rescuers: Down Under. Still terribly underrated, I think.

 

Sometimes parents can be wrong.

That one wasn't even direct-to-video either!

 

Disney is a company that ingrained in pretty much everyone childhood to the point that they own basically most of it for a lot of folks. But I think a lot of the shit involving them is grossly overrated. Like Jesus Christ Zootopia isn't the fucking Masterpiece that howl about and let's lie to our selves Pixar's movies aren't that great(Expect incredibles). I think that people often forget about the people behind it the movies are what make them good and not the company. Disney dose have stuff worth the praise, but let's sit back a bit and give it more then five minutes of thought.

 

I guess you could say people need to Let It Go?

 

Can we branch out into live-action? Twenty Thousand Leagues, baby.

 

We're doing live action now? Allow me to introduce one of my favorite climaxes as a kid from my favorite live action Disney film:

 

I never realize just how much Winnie The Pooh-related stuff we had within the past 30 years, especially in the 90's and 2000's with those theatrical films and direct-to-video releases (not counting the TV stuff that was also made). You'd think we'd have enough of that before 2011's Winnie The Pooh but I guess not, though a shame if it put a final nail in Disney's 2D coffin.

I do know an animator who worked on that up in Canada when Disney once had a studio in Vancouver.

ZING!

As a kid, I once saw No Deposit, No Return in a school screening before a holiday break, recall enjoying that one well if only for the moment the kids get trapped in a vault with limited oxygen to breathe.

 

I have the VHS tape, but I never really sat down to watch it. Should probably do that.

Of the Disney live-action films I've seen (which are admittedly very few), I liked the Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, plus Honey, I Blew Up the Kid films, and Pete's Dragon (the remake was meh, did nothing bad or good, let alone anything new). Oh, The Muppet Christmas Carol and Treasure Island apparently counts, so there's that, too. The 1994 live-action Jungle Book movie was a favorite as well, as freaky as it is, and I really liked Holes as a teenager.

 

B&B is a criminally underrated Disney film; battle scene at the end with Angela Lansbury summoning ghostly knights to fight the Nazis at the end was just nuts. The whole movie was a trip.

 

I would recommend Treasure Island as well (the one from 1950).

Certainly wasn't Brazzle-Dazzle enough!

For another stupid, brainless entry, anything with Kurt Russell and Joe Flynn are a hoot! The Barefoot Executive's my pick.

It was a shame when they had to trim the Portobello Road dance number in later reissues. We can't even get the same extended cut on BluRay like we did on DVD before.

Going back a bit, I didn't know there was a Winnie The Pooh comic strip, one that was actually pretty surprising for what they could get away with.


If only they went this route.

 

Robin Hood will always be my favorite. Prince John is the best character.

Although I have to say, Moana was even better than I was expecting it to be. And I had high expections, for it.

But my second favorite Disney movie would probably be "Wreck-it-Ralph" . cuz I'm a gamer fag

 

Anything Peter Ustinov gets to voice is best! As a kid, I sorta went for the rabbit Skippy as he turned 7 just as I did when I saw this film for the first time in '84 when it came out on VHS, so I had someone to connect with in this standard Disney flick. Film always kinda bugged me for a while they didn't have voice credits for the minor characters until I saw those names on IMDB decades later, I guess they weren't that important enough at the time to go there, though it is something Disney ended up doing past the 80's when everyone got credited for these films, especially separate animator's credits for each character, you never had that before the 90's.

Didn't think to pay whatever amount on that when it was out. Guess I'll have to wait til it comes out elsewhere and see what the fuss was about.

Obvious.

 

All my life there's been this strong disconnect between my love of the majority of Disney's animated movies and many of its animated TV series, and hating it as a corporation. So with that love of the works, because they're the part that actually matters, I'll say some things:

* Snow White and Sleeping Beauty are both very good movies. Doesn't matter if princesses needing to be helped rather than doing the helping themselves is "problematic", these are good stories that lasted through the ages for a reason.
* Cinderella is better than both combined, even though Lady Tremaine is basically just Maleficent sans magical powers she manages to carry a greater menace. Also I love the talking mouse sidekicks (as a kid I couldn't understand what they said, especially the lyrics of their song when helping make Cinderella's dress but as an adult it's all really clear to me now?).
* Bambi is pretty to look at, but mostly meh. I still use the term "twitterpated" to describe attraction due to its influence on me.
* Likewise The Jungle Book, which has the added benefits of one or two catchy songs.
* The Sword in the Stone was twice as meh as Bambi, but I loved the scene where Arthur Wort and Merlin turned into squirrels and got hit on by real squirrels.
* I can't say a word against Pinocchio even though I don't like it as much as some I actually do have things to say against. Think is solid, like a chunk of wood.
* Prettymuch everything from The Great Mouse Detective through Pocahontas was great. The Renaissance became a bit fitful around then.
* The Lion King is the best Disney Renaissance movie and also the most financially successful.
* The Rescuers Down Under is the best sequel and the best Disney movie to have talking mice as protagonists.
* Post-2000s, the best ones I've seen were Enchanted and Wreck-It Ralph. Haven't seen Zootopia yet but I expect to like it when I finally do.
* Didn't see Frozen until after the hype and hype backlash had mostly died out, but that frickin' song still gets spammed on the radio all year long and I don't like it.
* There was nothing clever about Frozen's villain reveal since Gaston in Beauty and the Beast did the same thing only better roughly two decades prior. Lilo and Stitch did a better job with an interesting sister/sister dynamic.

 

great mouse detective was a fun movie.

too bad black cauldron was such a bad idea. i think that one bombed not because it was 'dark' but because the hero's a twat, the characters are lame and you don't see why you should care about them, and it's very sorely lacking in context. you're just plunked into a small part of some stories with characters you don't care about. but the visuals look good.

i liked the xerox aesthetics, actually.

edit: oh and i watched emperor's new groove again for the first time in ages. really is criminally underappreciated.

 

There's that, the Horned King merely got killed by accident but his death scene was worth freeze framing through!

Some people don't hate it as much as others I noticed. The tediousness of inking cels can really take it out on the most cautious women on staff.

Some still think "Empire of The Sun" had potential.

 

Two people: Gordon Sumner and Trudie Styler.

 

This all the way. I think the sister relationship would've been handled a lot better had Elsa remained the villain. But nerp, women aren't ever in the wrong, just misunderstood. I hope Jennifer Lee doesn't write another Disney screenplay all by herself. She needs to have men to balance or drown her out; pretty sure she was the one behind Judy Hopps' character or at least had some say in a lot of things going on with her.

Meanwhile how the hell does Linda Woolverton fall so far from grace going from Beauty and the Beast to Maleficent?

Is Emperor's New Groove underappreciated? I see a lot of love for it.

But yeah, it could've been amazing as Empire of the Sun. After watching "The Sweatbox" (best I could, anyway), I gained a lot of respect and sympathy for the staff who were so passionate about the project only for it to get shut down within a single meeting. I know it happens a lot in the industry, but that one has to hurt the most.

 

it kinda sounded like a mess