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Armchair psychology: CWC

Discussion in 'CWC Discussion' started by QuiltGuilt, May 14, 2017.

  1. Duhtay Wodes

    Duhtay Wodes The Uh-Mehwican Dwe-yum

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    10/10, best reply evar.....
     
  2. Birdoj

    Birdoj bird but in esperanto

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    I guess I can do my crazy gender theory as to explain Chris.

    Chris was raised by two parents that have "traditional values," this includes the media he watched (which we all know the TV had a serious part of raising him). Shows like I Love Lucy were considered revolutionary at the time for having such liberal ideas as "having someone be pregnant be on tv) (even though they never said the word) but were still very traditionalist. So Chris grew up only experiencing very dated, classical notions of what a "man" and a "woman" should be.

    Fastforwards to the cursed time of puberty. Pre-puberty kids very rarely have any idea about sex or what their bodies will be when they grow up. They have notions based on their family but the actual sheer terror of zits, periods and body hair are unknown (especially in a family that probably never talked about this shit like Chris'). So when Chris finally goes through this at school, along with everyone else, he remains fat and socially awkward while everyone else gets through that awkward phase and turns into adults. Add to that his maturity level and Chris is perma-stuck as a child.

    We know Chris did some "masculine" pursuits in school such as the basketball team, but his position didn't garner much praise compared to the jocks that actually play. Everyone else is dating and (presumably) scoring while Chris only has friends that his dad pays off. Keep fastforwarding as Chris watches more "modern" media and sees the kind of "successes" he's competing with at the mall, at PVCC etc.

    Now Chris is an adult, aware of queer topics due to the Internet. He's never felt comfortable as his definition of a "man" : big, muscular, of few but efficient words and bangin' all the ladies they want. But "woman" is more where he feels he belongs: kind, caring, protector of their children and empathetic to others. We know Chris really isn't these things but he sees himself as the "father" of the Sonichus and paints himself as a kind, caring person.

    Chris, as a person who rarely has more of a surface-level understanding of things cannot understand that the dichotomy of "man" and "woman" isn't so black and white. He also doesn't understand that being trans doesn't require you to get top/bottom surgery to align one to what they would be if they were "born in the right body." If he is going to some sort of local trans support group, they won't be asking these deeper questions, as they try not to invalidate each other but to offer support.

    If Chris ever went to a real, true and honest gender therapist they would be asking him these questions. Chris would, in my "professional" opinion, probably be much more comfortable ID'ing and presenting as an effeminate man. I feel he's forcing himself into the "woman" box because what other options does he have? Hilariously I feel this is an option that many "older" (like 40+) trans folk fall into but that's a hot debate for another day.

    Sauce: I'm a big queer and go to these type of things
     
  3. Uncle Frank

    Uncle Frank Occasionally slips through the cracks

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    If this was Kiwi Farms you'd be drowning in Autistic ratings right now for that fucking textwall. Good analysis tho.
     
  4. Birdoj

    Birdoj bird but in esperanto

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    I'm bored at work okay
     
  5. Princess Celestia

    Princess Celestia Your local techni-color horse.

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    Chris could very well have been misdiagnosed or had other disorders crop up since his last psychological evaluation. There is also of course his bad parenting and years of functional isolation. Other people have covered these so I don't feel I need to, but I would like to mention the Nocebo Effect.

    The Nocebo effect is the opposite of the more famous Placebo effect. Basically, when a person believes they have something that limits their abilities, they will be hindered as though they actually did have some disadvantage simply because they believe they do. Chris has known about his autism since he was very young and he has bought into the idea that his disability will prevent him from ever doing anything truly productive. Worse still, Chris believes that Autism is such a debilitating disease that any effort he puts into anything is a herculean feat worthy of praise. Its easy to see where his ego comes from, he was always told he was special and praised and rewarded for the most basic of things as a Child.

    What I'm getting at is that Chris's beliefs about Autism and how it relates to his life are worse for Chris than actually having Autism.
     
  6. Deleted User 0007

    Deleted User 0007 Well-Known Member

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    Or, he calls himself a transsexual lesbian to get women.
    And failing, but some things never change
     
  7. YamchasOnlyFan

    YamchasOnlyFan Wolf Fang Whatever

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    I don't know. When it comes to chris and gender i tend to side with occum's razor. He's shown to be very shallow in his motivations, and he spent a huge portion of his internet life hating gay/queer culture and to suddenly change views denotes a change in strategy rather than opinion.

    Chris has long been known to suck up that media-birthed backwash that all women are perfect, caring angels who secretly pine for love, and he believes that when they get married they become blow job dispensers and business women. He wants a new mommy to take care of him, and to do that, he needs to find someone desperate enough to settle for him.

    Right now Chris is adopting a common strategy in the SJW community. He's trying to score as many oppression points by becoming a woman so he can get some dimwitted college girl to be so impressed by his man tits and collection of MLP shirts that she'll settle for his bent, non-functioning duck. The Catherine emails showed that Chris has no desire to cut off his pickle, so it casts doubt on his genuine trans-ness.

    I feel like this started as a ploy to get women, but chris has accepted it because now he has people in that community petting him and feeding his delusions. Chris is nothing if not needy.

    I'd also believe that Chris thinks that he can undo all of this hormone stuff if he takes enough testosterone.
     
  8. Birdoj

    Birdoj bird but in esperanto

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    So you don't HAVE to cut off your dick/invert your vagina/whatever to be "a real trans" person; there's many reasons why a trans person would or wouldn't. But that's also a huge debate that even we in the trans/queer community have arguments about (and of course Chris wouldn't be aware of because that requires you to, you know, empathize with people and their own unique situations).

    Since Chris is not doing much research and is off-labeling everything with his HRT he's not going to get many effects (good or bad) because a) he has no fucking clue what a good dosage is to get results and b) He's not taking an antiandrogen (which blocks your body's natural creation of testosterone). Whatever it is he's doing will probably be unnoticable if he stops.

    And I guess I'd like to hope he's just? Trying to become more comfortable with himself. Since he doesn't have his mom driving him everywhere and handling everything for him, he's doing more things on his own and his identity is shifting as a result. I do believe part of what he's doing is for the sake of his love quest but at the end of the day he's just an awkward kid who wants to find some sort of skin he's comfortable in and other people like him for.
     
  9. Minimal Effort

    Minimal Effort Bring out your dead.

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    In a perfect world chris would be under professional psychiatric care at this point. And we all belive he needs it, even if he refuses.

    If chris keeps self diagnosing his "dementia" that may be enough for the state of Virginia to step in and do something. An unemployed autistic man with dementia taking care of an elderly pensioner is a massive PR nightmare waiting to happen.
     
  10. Duhtay Wodes

    Duhtay Wodes The Uh-Mehwican Dwe-yum

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    I kind of feel like, when Barb croaks, the state or some concerned parties will move in and place Chris in some kind of care home.
     
  11. QuiltGuilt

    QuiltGuilt My 2-cent_garbage.com

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    One can dream!
     
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  12. Duhtay Wodes

    Duhtay Wodes The Uh-Mehwican Dwe-yum

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    Not so much a dream as just thinking what might happen to Chris once Barb passes away..
     
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  13. king kong... with wings?

    king kong... with wings? Snek doesn't like being manhandled

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    I may know some stuff about psychology, but I am unaware of many other things in it. One thing I have learned is the mind is a very powerful thing hence the placebo and nocebo effects. Whether or not he has autism intrigues me even more because it wouldn't surprise me if symptoms similar to autism can come from just being isolated for as long as Chris has been.
     
  14. Minimal Effort

    Minimal Effort Bring out your dead.

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    You think chris has some form of psychosis?
     
  15. YamchasOnlyFan

    YamchasOnlyFan Wolf Fang Whatever

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    I admit my ignorance of the trans/queer community's labels, so I won't speak on what is or isn't 'trans.' Although I do thank you for explaining details of the process. Knowledge is power.

    I'm hesitant to label chris with any mental condition outside of Austism, although I do think there might be some evidence to support a claim for agoraphobia. But I would put a big asterix on that by reminding us that autistics are loathe to change in routine, and when his routine is wake up, play vidya games, play with lego, eat fast food, mass debate, surf the web, sleep, he would see any intrusion to that schedule as intensely negative. Like a angsty teenager who's told to get off his iphone and take the trash out.

    there are some trolls who think that he has borderline personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder, but I'm not sure due to my ignorance on the subject of these illnesses.
     
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  16. king kong... with wings?

    king kong... with wings? Snek doesn't like being manhandled

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    Psychosis is normally a symptom of some other mental disorders, but I do think his issues with reality can be considered psychosis
     
  17. Birdoj

    Birdoj bird but in esperanto

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    No problem dude. Most people don't know a lot of the finer points of trans stuff. It's very possible that Chris is aware of them if he's going to queer clubs/meetings but he's probably not thinking too hard about it.

    He probably has anxiety+depression. He's pretty powerless in his situation (both with how his parents raised him and his own percieved helplessness) and he's got a (rightful) fear of people making fun of him when he goes out and does things. And of store managers/cops/etc. I highly doubt he has bpd/npd because his inansity would be in very specific ways. Chris is more dumb than has a personality disorder.
     
  18. YamchasOnlyFan

    YamchasOnlyFan Wolf Fang Whatever

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    Oh I have no doubt that he has both anxiety and depression. But his massive ego must be constantly at odds with his depression, and probably the one positive driving force in his life (positive as in it motivates him) though it is still a delusion.

    I will say, that Chris's ego will only live as long as Barb is healthy. The moment he has to step up that's when he can't avoid reality any more and we'll say goodbye to Sonichu forever.
     
  19. QuiltGuilt

    QuiltGuilt My 2-cent_garbage.com

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    That sounded a bit a-loggy of me, I just think being in a home would be the best thing for Chris.
    As for having narcissistic personality disorder, I think it's much more likely that Barb has one and it rubbed off on Chris, he's her "golden child"
     
  20. Birdoj

    Birdoj bird but in esperanto

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    How much APS gets involved when Barb kicks the bucket, I think, will depend on how he handles it once she winds up dead. I don't think he's bad enough to get committed but he would definitely have a case worker, minimum.

    If she deteriorates and dies in the hospital, probably not a lot. If she's dies at home and he calls 911, probably a lot more. Do you think he'd unintentionally Weekend at Bernie's her to the hospital thinking she's just asleep?
     
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