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  1. Trolling Stupid

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    i think it is a pretty normal way to feel. for chris however, trolls have already exploited this. he has went on multiple fake irl dates. he has hanged out with the same kids that trolled him using his twitter account. he already associates most of his bullying with the internet, not the real world. i think almost anything anyone could ever possibly want to with chris, would be way easier if they met him in person. no one bothers with this nowadays, even though irl is easiest way to gain his trust, which can naturally involve or lead to at least some form of manipulation.

    the next "successful trolls" will have to make that irl commitment. it likely already happened with flutter, though we have no idea if she has an "end goal" to leak any messages or videos like a traditional troll, or if shes just crazy in love with him. RIDE OR DIE!
     
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    I still think “the internet is making ya’ll autistic” is probably the wisest thing he has said
     
  4. ToroidalBoat

    ToroidalBoat ¿qué?

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    [something about a broken clock]
     
  5. PigaDgrifm

    PigaDgrifm On Which We Used To Relyyyyy

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    My favorite quote will always be: "I was holding onto my... Manhood. My straightness. By having Optimus Prime in my lap."
     
  6. The Fool

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    This is really a stretch in regards to being related with Chris but I'm drunk and don't really have a filter right now anyway



    This track, "Merge" plays in the ending of Event[0] if you decide to give up your body and upload your brain in to the ship's computer in order to override the onboard AI and force it to navigate back to earth. I find a sense of irony in the plot in regards to Chris, willing to sacrifice his life for his "merge" even if it means he refuses to enjoy reality for the sake of his goals.

    Anyway this was the wine talking, I'll see you all tomorrow night in between watching cooking shows on YouTube.
     
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  7. ToroidalBoat

    ToroidalBoat ¿qué?

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    "Chris Chan" has called special ed students "nutty slow-in-the-minds", and has called the mentally disabled "windows to hell"... when it is he who is the "nutty slow-in-the-mind" (especially so since he bought into the "Idea Guys" manipulation), and it seems he is also a "window to hell" (especially since he "healed" Barb and claims to be Christ like some kinda lame Antichrist).
     
  8. The Fool

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    Like I've mentioned in the past, Chris is obsessed with being socially accepted and appearing "normal" and capable. Although he loves pity points, he much more prefers being genuinely admired. He's aware he's considered "one of the special ed kids", he's painfully aware of his autism diagnosis and the fact that he was put on the short bus, and he hates it. Chris hates special ed kids the same way a politician hates "racists"; not because he really does, but because of the same reason those same politicians have old photos of themselves in blackface. He's desperately trying to convince everyone else that he isn't the very thing he's "supposed" to hate. The "window the hell" analogy should be telling; he genuinely sees special needs people as having the ability to pull him back in to inferiority, as if their mere presence can "infect" him with retardation and make him an outcast by association. Couple that with his autistic impulse to overly-generalize people, and it's no wonder that his mental imagery of someone with autism is akin to a literal zombie (as displayed when a fan asked him if he would date someone with autism). In his eyes, he's the only "sane autist" akin to Christ being the only truly holy human, an exception among exceptions.
     
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  9. ToroidalBoat

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    Which in his case indeed comes from a combination of bloated ego. As well as Borb going to great lengths to "mainstream" him. Like moving him out of county for high school with Barb @ 14 BLC.
     
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  10. The Fool

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    found a chinese dude unironically using an attraction sign
    youtu.be/HYnisqY9xRI?t=2083
    they even meet a local immediately after who calls him insane lmao
     
  11. ToroidalBoat

    ToroidalBoat ¿qué?

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  12. The Fool

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    Yep... I'm on the CWCki : )

    For real that is an insane amount of text for having done literally nothing but basically be there

    sometimes I think about how the hell cwc liked ATHF, or why. there's no way he understood even half the jokes in it. I know literally everything he's ever hated was completely arbitrary and situational but I feel like he should have just straight-up hated the show.

    I bet Party All The Time completely flew over his head, he probably thought there weren't any jokes in it
     
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  13. Ore Rosechu

    Ore Rosechu Rockin' da house

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    Easy, his childish brain went "Ha, there's a silly cup and french fries on the screen, hehe dopamine activated."

    As long as there's some cartoonish character involved that's all he needs.

    As for Party All The Time, I wouldn't blame someone for having little to no reaction to it since Frylock is only sympathetic by comparison to Shake and Carl, and given the opprutunity is just as sociopathic and self-serving... And even if he wasn't... the premise is that he's dying... Something ATHF characters do all the time. The show already commands I don't take it seriously, so a story that tries to be serious will be ignored by most people who watch it.

    The only death that really bothers me or should bother anyone watching ATHF are those of the Storage Zeebles. Since it's the only time the show goes out of its way to say "This character doesn't deserve this", and only to kill them in a slow non-comedic fashion anyway. Not just kill them, but rot away everything they know. God the Storage Zeebles episode was gruesome.

    It and the fucking Piranha Virus episode, it's like for those two episodes and only two episodes they forgot why the show's deaths were funny and made them needlessly tragic (Storage Zeebles) or needlessly horrific (Piranha Virus), they're two of the only episodes I fucking skip everytime I rewatch the series.

    Ehh.. I guess Meatwad's deaths are pretty bad since he has the mind of a child, but anytime he gets the slightest bit of power he proves to be just as bad as Shake, possibly worse.
     
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  14. The Fool

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    Well, what I meant was that the humor in Party All The Time derives from the characters all uncharacteristically acting kind and caring to each other, and that Chris doesn't have the social awareness to interpret such a subtle shift in character. Shake would never act as nice as he did in that episode, any other day he wouldn't care less about Frylock dying and probably only focus on getting his stuff after he died. And of course Carl actively hates them all, so him crying over hearing about the cancer diagnosis was genuinely laughable, like that is straight-up not Carl. And the fact that it's over a very genuine and relatable issue and not something goofy just turns it into anti-humor, it's specifically funny because it's not funny. And that sort of subtly and reverse-logic is probably Chris' antithesis, lol. And the show is full of stuff like that, so I'm honestly surprised he didn't find it revolting.
     
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  15. Ore Rosechu

    Ore Rosechu Rockin' da house

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    To be honest I never cared for that episode, and never knew why, this is probably it.

    I find I like the idea of anti-humor, but rarely do I enjoy it in execution. To this day I'm in the minority that thinks Tim and Eric was never funny. I can't even find the joke half the time in Tim and Eric, I hear that referred to as "Anti-Humor" often times.
     
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    I think that lolcow wouldn't even get the humor of that Simpsons episode where Itchy & Scratchy is changed to make the characters "love and love and share" instead of constantly fighting as they normally do. Speaking of Simpsons, he has watched it, and I imagine the satire flies over his TV-fried brain. Like with that "Love Day" thing which he derped that idiotic holiday from.
     
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    lmao yeah I love Tim and Eric. You're right, there is no joke to find, the humor is that there is no joke. Or rather, the funny parts are in completely arbitrary and unexpected places, and it's just funny because of how unpredictable it is. And the parts you do expect to be funny are just turned into jumpscares or grossouts, very anti-humor. It really captures the "public access" feel where public access TV is often unintentionally and unpredictably funny, except it does it intentionally. Actually, now I wonder why Chris never mentioned Tim and Eric. I guess because it's not a cartoon?? Which also surprises me, because, even if the anti-humor goes over your head, you could still interpret the show as just being "so random xd" which we all know is Chris' vibe.

    also ngl I absolutely love Storage Zeebles, as much as I love Larry Miller Hair System and Bookie, they're probably some of my favorite episodes. I don't know why, I guess it's just that they're fictional characters and obvious caricatures that it's just funny, like a clown slipping on a banana peel. It wouldn't be funny if it wasn't a clown. I lost it at the end of Storage Zeebles where Carl straight-up stole the Zeeble's sun, it went from parodying colonialism to just being completely outrageous.
    I agree that Piranha Germs isn't really "funny" but I don't hate it, sometimes ATHF does episodes/scenes that are just outright horrifying for it's own sake, it's part of it's anti-humor DNA. Both with Tim and Eric and ATHF a lot of the time the anti-humor aspect involves being outright disturbing to the point where the joke is on you for watching it. I can only compare it to the same reason people eat extremely spicy food, sometimes it's just flat-out enjoyable to experience something deliberately made to make you uncomfortable, especially if you don't know when or how it'll happen. That's kind of the core of anti-humor; how unexpected it is, even if it has to disturb you to break your expectations. Yeah, it's definitely a niche in a world full of people who only find humor in relatable content, but if you got the stomach for it then it's a thrill.

    I guess the real point of anti-humor is that you feel "in" on the joke, you're in sync with the entertainer and you both know the whole song and dance of how humor and story telling is "supposed" to go, and you know that the entertainer is just as bored of that whole system as you are, so they're going to basically mock the very system of what is "supposed" to be funny by tastefully making the "funny" parts unfunny while inserting humor into places it ordinarily isn't meant to be. In a way, the joke itself is the concept of telling a joke, we're making fun of the very activity of making fun of things. It's very meta.
     
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  18. Ore Rosechu

    Ore Rosechu Rockin' da house

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    Speaking as a fellow

    Maybe I should try watching Tim and Eric again, all the times I've attempted it I just found it pure cringe. Then again I haven't tried since my late teens, so maybe modern Ore Rosechu will like it.

    Thing is, while Storage Zeebles, Larry Miller Hair System, and Bookie all have the same joke; character continuously devolves throughout the episode, and we are meant to be amused by witnessing the continuous worsening of the situation. Of these three Bookie is my favorite, and Storage Zeebles is one I actively dislike

    The reason the latter two work for me, and the former doesn't is because the Storage Zeebles don't deserve what's happening to them. They could stop it at any time by killing the defenseless Carl, but they're far too innocent to even understand that's an option even as the trees spell it out for them. They're cute magical creatures watching their paradise be destroyed, and they can do nothing but watch and hope their oppressor stops; which he isn't going to do because there's money in it for him.

    Also the line about how the trees "Stop talking after awhile", creeps me the fuck out... It doesn't really feel like there's a joke here, so much as one of the depressingly nihilistic things I've ever seen. Like watching an episode of Fraggle Rock where the fraggles slowly learn they're dying of radiation poisoning, and struggle to understand both what that means and that there is nothing that can be done even if they did. Maybe for some people the harshness and horror of that situation and who it's happening to is so over the line that it turns around and is funny again. I dunno.

    Bookie is a great episode, Shake keeps digging a hole for himself, continously making dumber and dumber bets while ignoring the advice of the people consistently winning bets, antagonizing both the people already brutalizing him and the only ones who could stop it from happening, all out of sheer pride. Pride that fails to be diminished even as Shake has more brutal beat downs happen upon him.

    Shake could stop this at any time by practicing humility and reason, however he's such an arrogant dumbass that he does neither. I can't feel sorry for Shake the way I do the Storage Zeebles, because Shake did it to himself, keeps doing it to himself, and even at the end when Meatwad pays off his debts; proceeds to learn nothing from this experience. This is not only consistent with Shake's character as a delusional narcissist, but it's funny to watch. Especially since Meatwad, the person who gets the brunt of Shake's anger over literally nothing most of the time, is not only benefiting from this betting situation, but is looking down on Shake from a high and comfortable position. Which just makes me feel good about the whole thing; Meatwad getting one over on Shake is always good to see.

    Shake's suffering is comedy gold, because the scenario makes it impossible to feel sorry for Shake.

    If anything it's as close as the series gets to being hopeful as Meatwad consistently winning his bets based on wild-off-the-wall insane moon logic while Shake consistently loses bets that can common sense tells us can only end in failure, can be seen as a case of good triumphing over evil.... If you squint your eyes anyway...

    Larry Miller Hair System for men, lies somewhere in the middle of Zeebles (The sufferer is innocent) and Bookie (The sufferer is guilty), but it's still funny as hell. Because again it's Carl doing it to an idealized version of himself, via talking to himself from across the multiverse. There's so much absurd about the situation by itself..

    1. That Carl can see a version of himself that's actually successful and only think "What a loser!", not "It should have been me", not "I could have had it so good... if only I made better choices in life.", not even "If I had hair, maybe I could better myself.", just "What a loser that guy is"

    2. That Carl geniunely thinks his pathetic life is somehow better than Idealized Carl's

    3. That Carl is just so accepting of a scenario where he's able to talk to a parallel universe version of himself

    4. That Carl has no end game in mind for making Idealized Carl act more like Prime Carl, even realizing it was a horrible idea, but ultimately blaming Idealized Carl for listening in the first place.

    5. That Idealized Carl would even entertain a voice that gives him blatantly horrible advice.

    By the time it's over Carl fully realizes what he's done, he has no thoughts in his head outside of "I just did that", which is consistent with his attitude of "None of this matter", he's just seen an idealized version of himself commit suicide and instead of learning any lessons from it.... He goes with the Larry Miller Hair System, despite being outright told it's a complete scan.

    Is Idealized Carl an innocent victim like the zeebles? Probably, but in a meta sense; Carl is literally doing it to himself with no real profit or goal in mind. That and the Universe Communication is wrapped in so many layers absurdity that it's impossible for me to take seriously.

    While the Zeebles situation is absurd, it's not wrapped in LAYERS of absurdity, my mind doesn't get confused and shut down trying to process everything, like it does with Carl in the back of the van hearing about a hair system that is just a mullet that gets bolted into his skull which somehow has a film about him, but the film is interactive, only the person running this charade is too addicted to gambling to see it through... (We got all that without me going crosseyed)

    With the Zeebles my mind goes straight to everything the Zeebles are a stand-in for; Overly innocent cartoon characters from sickly sweet magical settings, like the Care Bear or My Little Pony.

    Seeing them suffer because of Carl despite having done notthing wrong themselves, and unable to understand that Carl is the reason they're suffering.. it's like... watching Winnie The Pooh not only have terminal cancer, but struggle to understand what "terminal cancer" even means, even as his fur is falling out from the chemo, with Piglet who's just groked what "Death" is watching powerless to stop it or make Pooh understand what's going on. It's just uncomfortable, and reminds me of my own mortality, loss of innocence, and powerlessness to do anything about it.

    ...Winnie The Pooh suffering terminal cancer is a fucking Robot Chicken sketch isn't it?

    Anyway... That's my detailed breakdown of why I like Bookie and Larry Miller Hair System, but am genuinely disturbed by Storage Zeebles

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    Here's a truly random thought for you. I realize as I type this all, I am sick of nihilism and the harshness of our reality.

    I wanna be a kid again, I want mommy and daddy to tell me it's all gonna be alright, I want bright colors, I want to believe in magic, I wanna believe that God will answer my prayers.

    Instead I'm stuck with a world that is not dualist, not made of the material and the spiritual, but is just the material. Material being material, can look pretty for a time, but will ultimately rot and decompse, with nothing able to stop it. Everything is rotting and dying all around me.

    I want to hide away in a pocket of unreality, colored brightly, one that's soft and warm, and everything likes me and I like them. However, pockets of unreality don't exist and I must face the harshness of reality until I no longer can.

    The difference between me and Chris in that regard, is that I can look at the ugliness for what it is and understand that it's not going away, just because I don't like it.

    He's still covering his ears and saying "NO NO NO NO NO!" until the Dimensional Merge takes it all away.

    Oh Chris, I'd love for you to have your dimensional merge, I'd love for Jesus to do his Second Coming and take us all to Heaven, I'd love for New Age Movements to raise our vibration and bring us into an era of peace and harmony, I'd love for a lot of things...

    But aint none of them gonna happen. We're stuck here, until we die, and then we are not free, we merely stop existing. I hate it, anyone who realizes it hates it, but... Not a damn thing can be done about it.
     
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    Have you heard of our savior Grandfather Nurgle the Lord of Plagues?
     
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    Wasn't he a character in BIlly and Mandy?
     
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