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Discussion in 'CWC Discussion' started by Holdek, May 20, 2018.

  1. Holdek

    Holdek Well-Known Member

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    Since the Main Page of the CWCki links to here (in addition to Kiwi Farms), and since @Hurtful Truth Level and maybe other CWCKi mods post here as well, it might be worthwhile to have a thread about the CWCki for improvement suggestions, questions, and general discussion about it and its role in Christoriography.
     
  2. Nobody

    Nobody Shitposter Staff Member

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    The only improvement I ask is for the website to have a higher uptime than 50%.

    I gotta get my daily fix of autistic manchild lore, otherwise I become a productive member of society.
     
  3. Uncle Frank

    Uncle Frank He just won't go away

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    And we can't have any of that. You could imagine the horrible consequences.
     
  4. Hurtful Truth Level

    Hurtful Truth Level Well-Known Member Real Christorian Hedgehog

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    I like the CWCki, but keeping it updated is getting to be a hassle. It's not just the server issues, but the fact that most of what Chris posts is well into "shit is too minor" territory.

    When he used Facebook, it was easier to copy his posts over to the CWCki, since there wouldn't be that many in the span of a month and they'd be in the form of announcements.

    With Twitter, it's more of an issue, because of the conversational nature of it where Chris replies to people and their tweets have to be included as well for context, plus he tweets a lot more than he posted to FB. Someone tried to archive every tweet Chris did in September last year, and it got to 162 entries. That's not sustainable.

    So I've shifted to only including stuff that might warrant being included in articles. But since the CWCki doesn't have many people editing it anymore - I think people prefer forums like this or KF - a lot of stuff slips through the cracks on the CWCki. And it's harder to find content on the forums because people have to wade through commentary and screencaps aren't searchable.

    Yeah. It's probably stuck that way. Marvin explained the issue in a KF post.
     
  5. Someone In A Tree

    Someone In A Tree Well-Known Member

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    Not helping matters is that one can never be too sure which of Chris's posts will lead to a "saga" (an overused term but handy when it comes to organizing events) and which will just disappear like a q-sand in Barb's purse. The first few exchanges with Doopie would never had had me believe that she would eventually go to Kiwi Farms and reveal the scope of their interactions. Another thing that can't be helped, but would totally be awesome, is if newbies could recognize that the CWCki is ultimately a humor site and should accept that a degree of hyperbole is used. Too many people taking the CWCki too seriously think he's the worst person in the world instead of a pants shitting exceptional individual.
     
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  6. Skeletor

    Skeletor Skellington Justice Warrior

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    Don't have any suggestions, but the CWCki been an enormous source of joy for me over the years.
     
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  7. ToroidalBoat

    ToroidalBoat "Modernly Tech Savvy"

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    An issue I mentioned once is that the CWCki is quick to call anything Chris makes "plagiarism" in an overly broad interpretation of the word.
     
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  8. HotaruThodt

    HotaruThodt I Can Feel the Cosmos!

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    I've noticed the site loads pretty slow 80% of the time. Aside from that I have no complaints.
     
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  9. Holdek

    Holdek Well-Known Member

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    I think the server problems do discourage people from getting involved. I know I usually have to submit an edit three or four times for it to take. That really slows me down.

    In your particular case, you may want to develop some type of system where you just focus on the major updates (people can still fill in "no shit is too minor" stuff over time). It's not worth working on it if it stops being fun.

    It's probably best to arc out sagas in retrospect, with the benefit Christorical perspective.

    This might be worth doing. Maybe some kind of disclaimer on the main page saying:

    *Any names, or persons, discussed in this wiki, that may seem similar to anyone in real life, are purely coincidental, or otherwise parodic.*
     
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  10. Holdek

    Holdek Well-Known Member

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    Also, @Marvin, if you still post here, can you please reboot the server?
     
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  11. Minimal Effort

    Minimal Effort Bring out your dead.

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    FIFY
     
  12. king koi

    king koi Nobody cares, yo!

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    Couldnt someome just rip and mirror the site?
     
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  13. Windows7Guy100

    Windows7Guy100 Well-Known Member

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    I can't visit the CWCki, whenever I try to I keep getting this:
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  14. Holdek

    Holdek Well-Known Member

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    So I’m wondering if it’s time to retire the CWCki. I have no say in that decision but I thought I’d put it out there. Or at least freeze it as a stable version. For 2 reasons:

    1. If your experience is like mine, the error messages from the past few months make editing and even reading it a gear grinding experience. And I don’t think there are any plans to solve those issues long term.

    2. The attention Chris is getting from weens is entering some really bad territory. Look I got lots of lulz reading about OPL over the years and it’s great that he’s now able to sell literal garbage with his autograph on it, but frankly the latest extortion revelations made me feel a bit sick to my stomach. It’s worse than BlueSpike. Not just the money, but having him repeatedly punch himself in the face and such. He’ll probably always be a target but sociopathic autists read the CWCki and think it’s Wikipedia rather than a gag. I even put a parody disclaimer on the main page a few weeks back but it probably made little difference.

    IDK. What are your thoughts?
     
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  15. king kong... with wings?

    king kong... with wings? Snek doesn't like being manhandled

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    I have doubts that retiring the CWCki will do anything to stop the weening. I heard that if the CWCki is deleted, other more inaccurate sources would still exist and the sociopathic autists that would have read the cwcki would just go ED or some of those other boards dedicated to him
     
  16. king koi

    king koi Nobody cares, yo!

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    As nice as the gesture would be, it would be pointless to retire it unless it was coordinated with kf amd ed.
     
  17. Sonichu

    Sonichu You don't have to tell me twice!

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    I don't think it would do much. Youtubers draw more attention to Chris than the Cwcki ever did, I don't think it's a huge coincidence that Idea Guy sunk his claws into Chris the same month Pewdiepie made a video about him.
     
  18. Holdek

    Holdek Well-Known Member

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    What separates the CWCki from ED and Kiwi Farms is that on the latter sites Chris is one of several lolcows. And the sheer volume and specificity of subject on the CWCki.

    Nonetheless, you guys make some good points so I'll have to chew on this a little more. Hmm, yeah.
     
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  19. One Too Many

    One Too Many Sexual Orientation: Heavy Metal

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    Honestly the CWCki is the most organized and well written wiki next to the UESP and for that reason alone It would be a shame to see it taken down. A lot of work has gone into making it an incredible resource that is detailed, easy to navigate, often hilarious, and even a little thought provoking a times with the explorations into Chris' character. If anyone wants to know about Chris there is no better place to learn about him and get lost in the insanity of his life, for a lot of people this is all a part of "discovering" Chris. In a way the CWCki is Chris' legacy, perhaps a cursed legacy but that's the high price of being an eccentric man child legend; in a perfect world the CWCki will out live Chris and will be immortalized in stone but its hard to say how long it'll stay active with poor server maintnecess and our, the comunity's, interests waning. One day someone is going to have put the CWCki down but I hope that day is far into the future and when it happens I don't want to be around to pull the trigger, but for the time being... lurk mor my friends, lurk mor
     
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  20. CIAStoreOwner

    CIAStoreOwner Well-Known Member

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    Weens are going to ween. The CWCki no longer existing isn't going to stop these stupid e-fame hungry autists from being like that. The ED article is going to survive in an increasingly patchwork form and people might think that Cryzel (if mentioned at all) is made out of a lubed up vacuum cleaner and take that seriously because they're stupid autists. If possible, it should be kept up until Chris's death. However, I don't realistically see someone doing that for the next 30 years or so.