Star Trek

Discussion in 'Shows' started by Mouseberger, Jan 22, 2017.

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Best Star Trek

  1. The Original Series

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  2. The Animated Series

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. The Next Generation

    15 vote(s)
    53.6%
  4. Deep Space Nine

    7 vote(s)
    25.0%
  5. Voyager

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Enterprise

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  7. Other

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    0.0%
  1. Sad Ken

    Sad Ken Horrible Cunt

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    Archer and Fucker, sorry I mis-spelled Tucker somehow, piss me off.

    There's a lot of little reasons to hate Enterprise, but the main issue I had was that it was a crew of unlikable shits. Archer's an irresponsible jackass with daddy issues, T'Pol has all the energy and agency of a recent stroke victim - pro-tip Joelene, 'emotionless' doesn't mean 'lifeless' - Tucker has an annoying accent and never stops fucking whining about things, Phlox is just Neelix combined with The Doctor and the rest of them barely qualify as characters. If you're going to watch more episodes, play the Mayweather drinking game. You take a drink any time Mayweather says something other than "aye sir, course laid in". You won't actually need alcohol to play it. The pilot is the most amount of lines he gets before the one episode about him (I think it's in season 1), and then after that he goes back to doing nothing.

    Other than that most of seasons 1 & 2 are just re-hashed Voyager plots, but worse.
     
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  2. ToroidalBoat

    ToroidalBoat "Modernly Tech Savvy"

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    Enterprise has a good premise (the beginnings of the Federation, some of the first voyages, etc), but I take it the way they worked with it may have had issues.

    I imagine people may still like it though.
     
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  3. Skeletor

    Skeletor Skellington Justice Warrior

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    I'm a huge ST nerd, but I stopped watching Enterprise because the intro music was just so bad. Maybe someday I'll give it a fair shot.
     
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    ToroidalBoat "Modernly Tech Savvy"

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    I don't think the intro is that bad. They played it on the Space Shuttle as a wakeup tune.
     
  5. Sad Ken

    Sad Ken Horrible Cunt

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    Episode 4 was an actual Star Trek episode with science and ethics (if slightly predictable ones) and feels and stuff.

    Although I did rather enjoy Landry getting horribly killed, which maybe isn't the best sign in terms of character development
     
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    ToroidalBoat "Modernly Tech Savvy"

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    Is the Romulan homeworld getting destroyed in the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie in an alternate timeline, or the main one?
     
  7. Sad Ken

    Sad Ken Horrible Cunt

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    Not 100% confirmed.

    Initially the Abramsverse was intended to be an alternate timeline created by the Hobus Supernova that destroyed Romulus in 2387, and Nero & Spock accidentally going back in time during the latter's efforts to stop the shockwave. Therefore, the destruction of Romulus happened in the main timeline.

    Now most serious Trek fans pointed out that there were way too many differences in between the Abramsverse and the main timeline to be explained by temporal incursion, even one as willfully destructive as Nero's. Subsequently both Simon Pegg & Alex Kurtzman (I think) suggested in interviews that the Abramsverse might have always been a separate universe to the main timeline and Old Spock in the Abrams movies actually came back from the future of the Abramsverse timeline, not the main one in which all the TV series had taken place. Therefore leaving it unclear as to whether the destruction of Romulus happened in the main timeline.

    The Star Trek: Countdown comic series and Star Trek Online both assume it happened in the main timeline, but neither are canon.

    tl;dr There's no definite canon answer, but most non-canon assume it happened in the main timeline.

    As an aside, if we go by the original idea that the Abramsverse is a timeline created by the destruction of Romulus and doesn't exist without this event, if Old Spock left the required information for Starfleet and/or the Romulans to stop the Hobus Supernova, and they succeed in doing so, does the Abramsverse timeline then delete itself?
     
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    ToroidalBoat "Modernly Tech Savvy"

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    I wonder what Roddenbery would think of the series that came after he passed away?
     
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