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Once upon a time I was allowed to ban spergs with impunity. At some point standards dropped and the forum filled with people who wanted to target people they just disagreed with.

 

The site did change, that is correct, but the problem is that you don't change for no reason, and it's not quite a Kiwi Farms-only issue. Case in point, sites like Reddit have fell into this fate.

We reached a point where it's hard to escape politics especially with the culture war going on. Chris being transgendered will definitely lead to people debating about what gender you should refer to Chris even if Chris did something horrible like having sexual intercourse with Barb. It's hard to find a currently commonly talked about person of interest that does not involve politics. Even the classic lolcows were notorious for that too such as Andrew Dobson and MovieBob. Heck, it's hard to even consider what is considered politics and what isn't now.

As for the LGBT issues, you don't go mask off suddenly thinking they would ruin the world within a few seconds. You have to go deep down into the rabbit hole to see the crazy shit going on around them, be it lolcows or news articles which portray them in a very negative light to go into a lunatic frenzy about them. When you get exposed enough you will later think that these LGBT individuals are complete monsters that must be dealt with, which I think leads to the moral outrage going on. And unfortunately given the Farms are affected because of individuals in the LGBT community, it's going to get a lot worse since it would give them justification.

This is obviously not a justification about the change of direction, I definitely agree that they really need to stop getting mad about politics (which is easier said than being done, as I said before, it's hard to consider what is politics and what isn't), I'm pointing out that the site has changed direction for a reason that isn't really limited to only them.

 

You, Saney and Compy did a great job of keeping the forum free of single interest spergs.

 

Because even though Chris was pretty bad before the mainstream Internet attention, some of the actions done by Chris were actually unfortunately because of the trolls, such as encouraging Chris to do something embarrassingly weird on a video to give Chris the desires/wants (like getting a girlfriend or getting a site down). There's also the argument that his mental health has heavily deteriorated because of the trolls in the long run.

Obviously, the motherfucking and blarms rage is due to Chris, but there's a reason why people paraphrase along the lines with "Most of the people involved in this Chris Chan story are bad people" as not much are innocent.

 

I think the difference is that we have been following CWC for so long that we know that the trans stuff is actually boring in the grand scheme of things. Like it’s interesting to discuss how and why because CWC is not a normal person who was simply born in the wrong body, but it’s minor.

 

I think this just all relates to people wanting clout but not wanting to do the research. People report all this sensationalist stuff about Chris but nobody bothers to check their facts. Hence we have 'Mr. Chan, related to famous internet hacker Four Chan, raped his mother then escaped jail through the window'.

 

It's hard for most people to laugh at something if they feel like they're being personally attacked. When MovieBob went on his tirade against the movie Pixels we all laughed at him. Not because we liked the movie or were fans of Adam Sandler. We all agreed with him and thought the movie looked terrible. The difference was we didn't get angry about it. Watching a grown man throw a fit over a mediocre kids movie he could just easily ignore is always going to be hilarious. When he started going after politics Kiwis (a group of anonymous people who are asked to hide their power level) took it personally.

Don't get me wrong, Bob's politics are usually awful and should be mocked, but in a "shut up, Bob, nobody cares" way and not "here's my dissertation on why you're wrong".

 

I'd argue that MovieBob was always political, just not too much into it until GamerGate gave him much more public attention. I think we also reached a point where people observing lolcows started having the habit which was "X is lolcow, therefore everything X does is bad and we should dogpile X for anything X does" which got people to criticise any lolcow about anything said lolcow does, even if the lolcow has nothing else left but his political views.

Way back then however if you tried to discuss about Chris' political leanings based on Chris' random ramblings you'd be bashed for trying to start a flame war about politics. Now unfortunately given the political climate, culture wars and with Chris voting against Donald Trump (along with voicing about said person's rather shallow political viewpoints), it's easy to see people following Chris started sperging about politics unfortunately and had a black-and-white viewpoint of thinking "Chris leans left, therefore left bad".

 

At one point me and Compy alone were responsible for something like 60 to 70 percent of all corrective actions taken on the farms. We did not play.

 

Dun IIRC also had a reputation like that too back in the day, but he is welcome to correct me if I am wrong. Infact, he is the only staff member left that predates Null and he doesn't want to demote him completely because he feels since he didn't appoint him, he shouldn't mess with that.

 

Didn't stop him from removing me lmao, mind it's fine because I had lost interest at that point.

 

So the new form of entropy sites may suffer is getting political - left or right?

Especially with a lack of regulation or too much regulation for both?

(also I miss when the "culture war" wasn't a thing)

 

Not quite, it's actually possible to get political while at the same time not suffering, but it requires both sides to not stereotype and understand with each other and not jumping to conclusions. Ironically this would involve not trying to judge one's actions by his/her political viewpoints, and given the political climate, this is going to be very difficult.

As for the question about lack of regulation or too much regulation, it's a double-edged sword for both that it's very difficult to even determine the best possible outcome, and trying to find a middle ground is easier said than done.

• Lack of regulation: Will encourage more freedom and people won't be scared to voice their opinions (unless they are worried that they'd be laughed for voicing their opinions), but will be abused easily that people will view the community as extremists or promoting hate or spreading misinformation (which can be bad in the long run) for allowing any opinions.
• Too much regulation: On one hand, it would definitely make your community to be much safer. On the other hand, this is very easily abused to be done in such a way where you can only voice your viewpoints as long as it's agreeable in general by the community.

 

I'm glad Chris dropped the "Pmurt" nonsense early on. It was funny at the time (didn't he throw a Pmurt Transformer into a litter box?) but the idea of people trying to prove they're smarter than Chris by debunking his political beliefs just makes me really depressed.

 

Proving that one is smarter than "Honor Roll" should not need to be done...

It's like the average person proving they're not as bad as a serial killer.

 

Watching the most recent episode of Geno's documentary got me thinking... could Chris have gone to jail for animal abuse?

 

There's new Praetor art, which confirms that Chris is still in custody (Look at the dates the works were made in).

Disclaimer: I don't know how to do thumbnails on this website.

Spoiler: Calming a Wave in Texas

Spoiler: As the Prophecised Scriptures Shall Manifest

Spoiler: Sonichu Prime and Rosey Rosechu Prime and Cwcville's Cyan Master Emerald

Spoiler: Is This A GameStop Ad?

Spoiler: The Fall of Not Babylon

Spoiler: With Healing In Her Wings Of The Morning Into Neolives

Spoiler: Holy Flame Sky Uppercutting the Devil

 

That's a lot of nuts ink!

 

I bet it's 'cause his lawyer told him to not incriminate himself with whatever he sends out.