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Discussion in 'CWC Discussion' started by Yawning Sneasel, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. The Red Baron

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    unfortunately the Idea guys showed weens a fairly simple way to get a complete stranglehold over Chris, and the Weens being Weens decide to go for it which is also unfortunate as they seem to be mostly greedy extortionists, its no longer the simple trolling game of "hahaha look at what hes posted now" its now them forcing him to create videos that are basically "ha I'm a crazy retard look at what I'm doing" while also having him pay them for that privilege worsening the Chandlers already poor financial situation and he likely doesn't even realize whats going on as they are playing to his mental illness
     
  2. One Too Many

    One Too Many Sexual Orientation: Heavy Metal

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    I feel like the Idea Guy / merge stuff is equivalent to when Chris become a tomgirl / trans. Both involved major changes in Chris' beliefs, personality, and image, and both were met with shock and disgust. In the tomgirl case, its hard to say what ultimately brought Chris to it, whether it was a vain attempt to meet girls or was brought on by prodding from trolls the general consensus was that Chris was better / more sane when Chris didn't identify as a woman. Along similar lines, Idea Guy and merge has drawn the same conclusions. I feel in both cases Chris' sanity was pushed beyond it's limits with Chris
    cutting open his infected taint wound to free his vagina
    in the tomgirl days and Chris jerking off to All Star in the Idea guy days. It's hard to say that it's worse now then ever for Chris, even with Sockness, as I feel Chris' apathy and laziness will actually prevent him from whatever harm Sockness would likely do but I would agree that the prevalence of weens and manipulators are easily the worst thing for Chris aside from enablers.

    Hopefully Sockness isn't a sign for things to come but instead just an anomaly.
     
  3. Another Fellow

    Another Fellow the unwanted one

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    I've written probably a term paper's worth about what I think separates classic Chris trolling from current Chris trolling and deleted just as much. So my theory's still pretty rough and I'm probably going to contradict it at some point, but here's the gist.

    Classic trolls were pretty consistent with him. They were always going to prod him, but they didn't ever pretend they were anything else. They'd settle into a role in his life and stick with it, given the odd exception like Vivian Gee or Robert Simmons V. They made a consistent, hands-off setup and let Chris himself be the chaotic variable.

    It's weird to put it this way, but classic trolls were usually pretty fair to Chris. They'd start doing something, like Liquid with his impersonation or Alec with Asperchu, and wait for him to fire the first shot. If they were hard on him, they were consistently hard on him. Clyde would be no-bullshit, Alec would be polite but firm, Liquid would be Chris's reflection. That was always how they'd approach Chris, and if they changed tack, they usually made it pretty clear why. They would establish a role in Chris's life that he could grasp, then they'd give him clear parameters and leave him free to respond to those parameters in ways only he could. It was a game, but it was one where everyone had their role and Chris could pretty much understand what was going on. It was just that he was too foolish and not introspective enough to realize he kept ending up with egg on his face until it was too late.
    Like Bart and the cupcake, only Chris could be dumb enough to keep falling for the same dumb bait, and that was what was funny. Not making him put your fetishes into his comic or make references only a /pol/lutant would find funny.

    Current trolls (e.g. Jessica, the Idea Guys, the Teen Troons, and Sockness) don't get that. They waffle on him. They play these abusive mind games where one week they want to be his sweetheart or help him make the Dimensional Merge happen, and the next they're extorting him for actual money or fucking up his fantasyland or lying about being his friend. But there's no "why;" they just change the rules if they're bored. Or they get mad at him for something other trolls did and he had no part in. Or they just cut off from him for a while, just because. With current trolls, the rules keep changing on Chris, if he can even figure them out. They either enable him or take advantage of him, and he has no way of knowing when they'll switch to one or the other, if he even knows which they're doing at the moment.

    That kind of abuse is what really started to break Chris. He used to live in a constructed world, but he generally knew the rules and the players and the way things worked, and he had enough control to fight back or retreat if he wanted. Now he lives in a constructed world where he doesn't know the rules and he has no safe, troll-free part of his world to retreat to. Even his fantasy universe has been compromised, and he doesn't understand how or why. In some way or another, he's always at the whim of people who are okay with hurting him for lulz in a way that classic trolls weren't.

    His world used to be populated by four discrete groups: his fandase, his trolls, his sweethearts, and everyone else. Now those have all blurred together and he can't figure out who's a friend and who's a foe anymore. So he goes with whoever says the right words and promises him nice things. He sees the candy, but he chooses not to see the windowless van.

    tl;dr classic trolls played off his personality, current trolls play with his mental state.
     
  4. Fauna Fox

    Fauna Fox Mainstream 2010s Nicktoon Furry Waifu

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    This post just made me hate the weens even more.
     
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  5. The Red Baron

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    I'm afraid its probably worst case scenario, Sockness style trolls are probably going to be the norm now as the Idea Guys opened up a new way to troll Chris but this way was a simple one that weens could perform easily, Sockness is just another example of a ween with power
     
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  6. ToroidalBoat

    ToroidalBoat "Modernly Tech Savvy"

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    Seems everything keeps getting worse in Current Year, and CWC trolls are no exception.