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Financhu Crisis 6/20/2018 - Chris offers "JULAY!" autograph for $150

Discussion in 'CWC Discussion' started by Hurtful Truth Level, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Soniblue

    Soniblue Sonichu's arms are NOT blue!

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    Is Null from KiwiFarms guarding Chris' Twitter now? I'm sure it's someone else, but Null is also running (and monitoring!) Chris' email and new site and doxing weens. Generally I don't like weening either, but this whole trying to keep people away from Chris and trying to own Chris needs to stop. Let's face it, the people who want nobody else to interact with Chris are also going to be the first ones bitching that Chris is getting boring. Now Idea Guy was a massive dumb shit but that's no reason to go into CWC lockdown and not let anyone you don't approve of contact Chris.

    One could argue that trolling Chris has gone too far for years with people (a highly controlled group no less) pretending to be his high school gal pals for years. After shit like that I think that any form of trolling that isn't super cruel and abusive is fair game for anyone to do.
     
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    Deleted User 0007 Well-Known Member

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    I am keeping this forever, mostly because its 100% correct
     
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  3. Anya

    Anya Heh Administrator

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    Chris has been boring for years and gets hundreds of e-mails a day from people looking to try and milk something out of him when there’s nothing left. Chris does not have the skills to understand subtleties and clearly can be easy to manipulate. He doesn’t seem to grasp the concept that shit’s going to get real when Barb dies, and definitely needs some guidance when it comes to certain things, considering he was recently scammed (by weens) out of a large (?) sum of money.

    Do you think it’s OK to let people scam and harass a mentally disabled person? Or would it be better if he had someone to help him, even if it meant you can’t spam him with e-mails screeching at him about how terrible he is and all sorts of dumb shit?
     
  4. Soniblue

    Soniblue Sonichu's arms are NOT blue!

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    No I don't think it's okay to scam Chris out of money. But weens will continue to contact Chris regardless of if emails get posted. Just like weens will continue to post shitty comments on Chris' YouTube videos and make dumb tweets at him. People have been harassing Chris for a decade. All trolling is in some way harassment. I'll agree that Idea Guy and other weens are more malicious than actual trolls, but we could still say any kind of trolling, even the classic and funny trolling, was harassment.

    In this case getting Chris to write JULAAAY on a picture isn't particularly funny but it's pretty harmless. Not buying an overpriced autograph isn't the same as taking $75 from Chris. Somebody bought it in the end anyway.

    Pretending to be women and catfishing Chris into relationships, sending hookers to his house, and a ton of other classic trolling is significantly worse than not buying an autograph from Chris. Chris is only out a page of paper and a bit of ink if you don't buy it.

    I don't know how anyone can seriously consider stupid ween attempts (aside from scamming Chris) to be worse than Chris being trolled into taking pictures in diapers to apologize to Ivy, getting and sharing nudes from Chris, making Chris hump his PS3, tricking him into destroying his PS3, telling Chris that Ryan Cash killed himself because of a Sonichu hiatus, Cylde Cash telling Chris that he raped PandaHalo, or a ton of other shit Clyde and other trolls did. Oh wait those are from the Golden Age of Chris where almost nothing was too far because it was funny.

    Chris will still bounce back after getting trolled. Look how fast Chris got over Jessica Quinn. He bitched for maybe a week if that.
     
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  5. TiggleYaPoosay

    TiggleYaPoosay I Can Roll My Tongue

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    Well this thread went more or less how I expected it to :cwl:
    I don’t post on KF but I like the site and I like Null. It’s a little dishonest though to say you’re just an observer then you get involved by playing ween-blocker for Chris. Chris’s problem all along has been his internet presence and the only thing that will stop him from getting trolled, scammed or harassed is getting off the internet, or at least going anonymous.
     
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  6. Soniblue

    Soniblue Sonichu's arms are NOT blue!

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    If only Chris could go anonymous. But he has a pretty distinct typing pattern and quite the ego so he'll probably still talk about Sonichu or himself.
     
  7. Hurtful Truth Level

    Hurtful Truth Level Well-Known Member Real Christorian Hedgehog

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    Chris having been scammed out of money is a serious issue. Filtering his messages like Null's been doing is a way to prevent people from taking advantage of Chris again.

    The observer thing is more of a caution against random people trying to troll. In this case, though, Null is helping Chris.
     
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  8. Glaive

    Glaive Cyber Tzar Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Nah we don't lock shit really. Have a blast kiddos.
     
  9. Anya

    Anya Heh Administrator

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    Lol, what Bizzarnage did wasn't even close to trolling. Was it inconvenient and annoying for a split second to Chris? Yeah, a bit. He did the same bullshit other people have done in the past - requested something with an offer to pay and when the item was produced, refused to follow through. This has happened to Chris a bunch of times over the years.

    I've said this a lot and I guess it bears repeating - Chris gets hundreds of these dumb ween e-mails a day. They don't go to spam. They go to his inbox. He also gets pertinent e-mail sprinkled in there as well, so to brush it off as "what's the harm in letting stupid weens e-mail him?" is kind of silly because of the sheer volume of dumb shit he has to deal with.

    The "Golden Age" was nearly 10 years ago. Chris is long since dry. Contrary to popular belief, Chris isn't as naive as he's made to come across, but shit still gets to him. He didn't "bounce back" from Jessica Quinn so much as he moved on because Idea Guy had already started manipulating him.

    Chris has had handlers/puppetmasters for years. Null's just the first one who's been openly transparent about it.
     
  10. Soniblue

    Soniblue Sonichu's arms are NOT blue!

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    I definitely agree that Chris being scammed out of money is serious. I'm just saying that I don't think that preventing every person who tries to contact Chris from doing so will fo anything in the long run. I think deleting messages that are from people trying to scam Chris and blocking the senders would do more than sharing the emails would. It's Null's site (or rather Null is building/running it for Chris) so he's free to run it how he sees fit. Since the cwcville.us mail thing is probably customizable since it's part of the site I'm sure he could implement some sort of filter to block out links to money sending sites like PayPal, Interac transfers, etc. People have tried helping Chris before. Usually they're just random whiteknights hoping they get noticed or trolls with some ulterior motive, but regardless people trying to help Chris are usually mocked.

    I'm not saying Chris shouldn't be helped to avoid being scammed or blackmailed or anything that's actually serious. I just don't think that anyone should limit who can interact with Chris in general or only let people they approve of contact him.
    I'm not arguing that it's clever trolling by any means. It's definitely weening. What I'm saying is that a lot of newer trolling attempts and weening isn't much worse morally than old trolling was (with the exception of stuff like scamming Chris or trying to convince him to do something dangerous). A lot of the classic trolling is easily just as objectionable as some of the shit weens do. The older trolls just successfully got Chris to bite and do something funny.
     
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  11. Anya

    Anya Heh Administrator

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    And he doesn't react now. It's not because of people cutting off contact between Chris and people who attempt to ween/troll him. It's that he's learned, over time, what to look for. A lot of that is due to handlers showing him.

    I'm not quite sure why you keep thinking that the reason Chris has people helping him has to do with the "level" of trolling. Chris doesn't respond the same way to repeated attempts at the same thing anymore. He's run dry. He's not going to destroy his stuff because he knows he can sell it. The Golden Age is long since over and regardless of whether or not you find it morally OK, anything people will try will just be a poor attempt at mimicry because some dumbass read it on the CWCki that it worked 10 years ago.

    Weens now feel they need to up the ante because Chris doesn't fall for the same shit anymore.

    And you can't judge morality while participating in observing what Chris does and involving yourself in the community, while simultaneously decrying that it should be "OK" that every fucking rando and his mother e-mail Chris to shout memes at him from 10 years ago.
     
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    Deleted User 0007 Well-Known Member

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    Can we all just agree Bizzernage was dumb and also a virgin and get back to laughing chris drawing sonic fanfiction?
     
  13. Anya

    Anya Heh Administrator

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    Lol he chimped out hard at the shitposts in this thread. :D
     
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    Deleted User 0007 Well-Known Member

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    did he delete his ragey posts or did he post them elsewhere?
     
  15. Anya

    Anya Heh Administrator

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    He was live on Twitch and he was reading the thread and playing some game and chimping out.
     
  16. TiggleYaPoosay

    TiggleYaPoosay I Can Roll My Tongue

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    Damn I would’ve liked to see that. Were those 2 unsatisfied looking women still sitting behind him?
     
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    Deleted User 0007 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/276075650
    This it?

    Edit: Yes it is, and it is absolutely hilarious

    Another Edit: Lol, polyamerous relationship, you my good friend are seriously the biggest virgin I've ever met. Also nice ragequit off the stream, too bad you're too much of a wuss to give us a reaction
     
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  18. Anya

    Anya Heh Administrator

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    Now @BadHabits ' shitposting makes sense. :D
     
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    CIAStoreOwner Well-Known Member

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    Judging by how he's reacting to us and the Farms, I'm surprised he's not ranting about bugged mechanics.
     
  20. Liquid Squirtle

    Liquid Squirtle Still Shitposting on the Moon Staff Member Administrator

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    Hah, not even worth taking out the trash at this point.

    It's contagious.
     
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