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YouTube New CWC Documentary....

Discussion in 'CWC Discussion' started by Trilby, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Very Honest Content

    Very Honest Content Formerly a niggo (???) Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't use the oil, you never know what's really in that, but seriously, the purp strains always leaves my taste buds satisfied.

    I think OPL's legendary level of entitlement in his own estimation is what will always hamstring any attempt at sympathetic portrayal. Part two is a frightening account of pretty stuck in neutral recounting of the aforementioned entitlement and this is from something obviously trying to ploy him through its presentation of his history. It's creepy and scary because that's what neet classic Chris was, if he chose otherwise, he wouldn't be our autistic hero. By not mentioning the mainstreaming issue (again) you lose any chance to get any sympathy built because he's no longer a victim of poor old parents making bad choices for his greatly needed special education, he's just a rampaging egg-mode redneck on the hunt for china. Maybe I missed something in the single viewings of these two parts though and am being too harsh.
     
  2. YamchasOnlyFan

    YamchasOnlyFan Wolf Fang Whatever

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    Part 3.

    during the chrismas walk through I'm a little blown away how clean the house looks (until we see bob and barb's room). The house really looks like shit these days.
     
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  3. Trilby

    Trilby Local Nut

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    It's a shame, but they did bring this on themselves anyway.
     
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    TheVoid Well-Known Member

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    Devil And Daniel Johnston managed to make Daniel's refusal to sign a million dollar contract because he believed that Metallica (his potential label-mates) were possessed by Satan as sympathetic. It also managed to make the fact that he had a schizophrenic attack while on a bi-plane and almost killed him and his father as sympathetic, and most of the documentary was about framing his obsession with a married woman as sympathetic. So, it's not quite outside of the realm of possible to make Chris a sympathetic character in a documentary.
     
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  5. TiggleYaPoosay

    TiggleYaPoosay I Can Roll My Tongue

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    Still can’t believe Nintendo Power published that letter.
     
  6. YamchasOnlyFan

    YamchasOnlyFan Wolf Fang Whatever

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    Nor can I. I used to get the publication back in the late 80s and early 90s and I don't remember any of the letters sent in and published being anything like chris's.
     
  7. Very Honest Content

    Very Honest Content Formerly a niggo (???) Staff Member Moderator

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    You can manage to present him any way sure, but authentically succeed at it, good luck...

    Part 3 is trying so hard to keep Anna's OG troll card dropping as minimized as possible. I'm sure Megan can take solace at night in the fact that brony-ism was the straw that broke the opl's back when she has to deal with shecameforcwc.jpg yet again. As someone who has read a minority of classic Sonichu, this pan and scan of the more relevant parts of the run contained in these is a blessing as I can approximate a speed read of it at a skimmed surface level of delving into the mire. Part four looks like just about where the pickle man arrives, I love part four already almost as much as I do the same numbered source chapter of the movie pickle man is destined to go purchase a ticket for.
     
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  8. Holdek

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    I started watching part 1 and couldn't finish it was so boring tbh. It's like a serious business version of the CWCki (like Null's lolcow wiki) in documentary film form, so it's basically bad idea of a bad idea. The value of the CWCki is it's entertaining and funny and creative, and yes the copious amount of detail works because you can bounce around, skim, go back and read stuff later, etc. With a film you have to sit there and watch every sequential detail about Chris Chandler's time in middle school.

    Although it's well made I must say I'm disappointed in catparty as in his effort to capture the entire letter, he missed the spirit, of Christory.
     
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  9. TheVoid

    TheVoid Well-Known Member

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    I think the reason it doesn't succeed to us is the same reason why the average person was willing to believe Micheal Moore's idyllic portrayal of Canadian Ghettos in Sicko, while a number of people were angry about how inaccurate it was. If you don't know anything about a topic, you can be persuaded into believing whatever is told to you. However, most of us know so much about Christory that we won't believe any sympathetic portrayal of him, which is why a mainstream documentary marketed to people who've never heard of Chris has an advantage (also, Pewdiepie's video). Socrates once said that the purpose of a paid art critic is to make the average idiot believe that a painting/sculpture is a masterpiece when it isn't. Well, not exactly that, but something kind of similar relating to the Tabula Rasa thing.

    Is CatParty the one behind this? If he is, then man, the big dogs in the Chris community are really falling from grace lately. The Lolcow Wiki was a bit malnourished when I looked at it last, with a number of articles saying things like "This article is incomplete, if you want to know more about this person, look at this thread on KF," I also remember a page for Null being included (and I think being one of the biggest pages at one time) due to that weird mandatory self-deprecation thing that people with any kind of presence online are required to do by law. It was the lack of content that made me avoid the LW, not the way it was presented.
     
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  10. Trilby

    Trilby Local Nut

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    In all fairness, I'm sure it took them by surprise someone had the nerve to record their progress. Of course they didn't say he was "Autistic" and "21" (two things Chris really hammers in the vid, I'm sure he had expected Nintendo Power to print that), so for what anybody at the time knew, this could've been a kid doing this enthusiastically.
     
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  11. king koi

    king koi Nobody cares, yo!

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    This is pretty tbh. A lot of us are disappointed cause we're ocd with any Chris fact
     
  12. Holdek

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    I was half-joking about CatParty. I don't think he made it. He posted it in the Farms calling it a "better documentary" and he works in video production, so it's a bit of a jest on my end.

    In terms of the LW, basically, and I've told him this and he barked at me for it, Null is trying to do what ED does, but more seriously. About lolcows. It's just an unattractive idea which is why so few people have contributed to it despite the growth of the Farms.
     
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  13. TheVoid

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    If you take lolcows seriously things get weird. I always preferred the old days where people would take a weird guy like JustinRPG or an odd fanfic like PikaPoon and post about it on a forum, then people would be on it for a week or so before moving onto something else, not really giving it more attention than a cheap laugh (albeit, a bunch of cheap laughs from a group of people). Nowadays, it seems like the culture got a bit weird, and guys like Null are at least partially to blame. I talked about this at one time, but Marvin's ethics of trolling talk and mentality is a big factor in this shift that I'm not a huge fan of. Instead of going after funny weirdos, the people on KF have this thing where they'd rather go after people who they deem to be worthy for whatever reason. So, the person is either a real scumbag, or has a large history online that can be catalogued, or is extremely popular and/or controversial at a given point in time. I really miss the old days of going onto FF, finding something weird and posting it on a forum for people to mock it MST3K style without the intention of trolling or psychologically profiling the person responsible for it. It's cliche to say that trolling was better in the old days, but it really was, even when I was on the receiving side it was better because people used to move on to the next target so quickly.
     
  14. king koi

    king koi Nobody cares, yo!

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    So kd is batman in a sense?
     
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    Very Honest Content Formerly a niggo (???) Staff Member Moderator

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    Part one is the most difficult to endure, the two after it pick up by the nature of Chris' misbehavior in society beginning to mount and spiral into the flame out that ensues from the wake of 'Furture Message.' But I agree with your point and am in the same boat as you right now with it, I appreciate the technical proficiency in the medium on display being applied but personally would have preferred the use of the same skills on something much more worthy of them instead of the internet's most famous ass-hat. For the hardest corp Christorians though, there is nothing new here and the neutral point of view trying to be impressed on it means no new takes can be derived out of the exercise, thus negating any point in it for that specific audience subsection.
     
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    NAITCHA BAH 16-time World Champion

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    Agreed, and it begs the question again: is it worth making a 3+ hour documentary for a market as niche as ours?
     
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  17. king koi

    king koi Nobody cares, yo!

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    It's not made for us. That's
    why it's not liked here.
     
  18. TheVoid

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    Yes. Like I said earlier in this thread, documentaries about niche subjects are the best way for small-time filmmakers to get noticed, that's why so many of them tackle niche subject matter. See also Jandek On Corwood, Anvil: The Story Of Anvil, and that one weird documentary about Edmonton prostitutes.

    The existence of a thread like this proves that making a Chris documentary is an easy way to get noticed.
     
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    YamchasOnlyFan Wolf Fang Whatever

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    Part 4

    I was expecting this to get to the liquid chris saga. But that'll need maybe two whole videos
     
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    TheVoid Well-Known Member

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    A full hour to explain what happened in the Liquid Chris saga? What? I'm not even sure you'd get that amount of time even if you combined all the Liquid and Solid videos released on Youtube. It's not even like it was a particularly complicated thing either. The whole thing with Alec and the events leading up to Sonichu #10 would probably need a bit of explanation though.

    https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid_Chris#Irony